[lbo-talk] We can lose, or we can just lose later

Gar Lipow the.typo.boy at gmail.com
Fri Nov 25 13:42:53 PST 2005


On 11/25/05, Louis Kontos <Louis.Kontos at liu.edu> wrote:
> If you have genuine respect for military personnel, for whatever reason,
> then it makes sense to speak honestly with and about them. Thanking them for
> a military adventure that you yourself call unjust seems rather hypocritical
> -- and condescending -- to me. I feel no need to thank anybody for doing
> something I consider unjust, notwithstanding everything you said about the
> military code. While you seem to appreciate the military code (at least
> those parts of it that mandate obedience and sacrifice, not anything else),
> you seem to lack an understanding of hypocrisy.
>
>

That is true as far as it goes. But "gratitude" towards the military is not only hypocritical; it is truly dangerous as well. Zell Miller repeated a well worn right wing meme when he said at the last

Republican Convention:


>It has been said truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter,
who has given us the freedom of the press. [cheers] It is the soldier, not the poet who has given us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. [cheers] No one should dare to even think about being the commander in chief of this country if he doesn't believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home

Do you see how dangerous this will be if it succeeds? Establishing the military as some superior caste to which the rest of us owe gratitude for all the freedoms and rights we possess? Seeing the military in fact as the basis for those rights, and thus able to take them away on whim? That is what lies behind the whole "gratitude" line.



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