> amadeus amadeus wrote:
>>
>> >The
>> >real indicators of class are whether or not the
>> >collective entity owns the means of production,
>> >distribution, and exchange.
>>
>> "Real" to whom? To the Marxist catechist? Or to
>> actual people living
>> in the world? What's the relation between those two
>> things?
>
>"Real," as in objective, as in affecting one's daily
>existence. And in that respect it matters tremendously
>to those actual people living in the real world, which
>"Marxists" and "catechists" are just as much a part of
>as anyone else. If red-baiters and liberals need to be
>dragged kicking and screaming into this reality, so be
>it.
I figured you'd say something like that. But how many actual Americans would accept your little lecture - or take being dragged kicking & screaming without aiming some of those kicks at sensitive spots on your person? Don't you think that that matters even a little itty bit?
Doug