[lbo-talk] Middle Class (was Harriet Miers)

Mike Ballard swillsqueal at yahoo.com.au
Thu Oct 6 19:09:10 PDT 2005



> amadeus amadeus wrote:
>
> >The
> >real indicators of class are whether or not the
> >collective entity owns the means of production,
> >distribution, and exchange.
>
> "Real" to whom? To the Marxist catechist? Or to
> actual people living
> in the world? What's the relation between those two
> things?

"Real," as in objective, as in affecting one's daily existence. And in that respect it matters tremendously to those actual people living in the real world, which "Marxists" and "catechists" are just as much a part of as anyone else. If red-baiters and liberals need to be dragged kicking and screaming into this reality, so be it. --adx

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Chalk one up for amadues!

Class can be and probably should be stratified into: upper, middle and lower. The people who have owned/controlled the means of production and have legally taken the lion's share of the wealth that the producers of any era have created, are the ruling class. Because they own/control most of the wealth, they own/control the political power.

Regards, Mike B)

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