[lbo-talk] Orange revolution, how are ye

Peter Lavelle untimely_thoughts at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 12 11:44:20 PDT 2005


I wrote on this topic today (over the weekend I conducted a number of conference calls from home on the subject with my Ukr "kitchen group." Most agree with me. http://www.untimely-thoughts.com/index.html?cat=3&type=3&art=1945

Sadly, all the talk of "western democracy" has allowed the "orange coalition" to continue Kuchma's economic oligarchy. "It the economy, stupid!" I am afraid that Ukr's political development has forgotten what really counts - freeing the state of oligarchs (even in power) from privatizing state power. Putin is demonized in Ukr because of the US, Poland, etc. But, Putin has been proven right - break the back of oligarchy first, then introduce economic reform. Putin is the only post-Soviet space leader (ex-Balts)to understand this.

--- Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:


>
>
> --- Dwayne Monroe <idoru345 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > One of these people, a young woman with very crisp
> > English, talked about
> > prosperity, joining the EU, being modern and
> stylish
> > like Yulia
> > Tymoshenko, driving Audi A8s and other shiny
> things
> > that would flow from
> > this revo.
> >
>
> Ukraine is never going to join friggin' the EU.
> Germany and France are not going to subsidize
> another
> 50 million Eastern Europeans who don't share their
> political agendas. Romano Prodi: "Ukraine will never
> join the EU." They won't even let in Turkey.
>
> I think Tymoshenko is replusive. Slap some peasant
> braids on your head and suddenly you're not a
> gangster
> billionaire, you're a Woman of the People. Blech.
>
> Nu, zayats, pogodi!
>
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