[lbo-talk] white Americans think Kanye West is wrong

tfast at yorku.ca tfast at yorku.ca
Tue Sep 20 11:36:46 PDT 2005


Quoting Wojtek Sokolowski <sokol at jhu.edu>:

All that I am saying is that I
> do not empathize with people showing certain behavioral characteristics - I
> am not trying to explain why they are showing them. If I were, however, I
> would favor a multi-factor model over simplistic denunciations.
>
> Wojtek
==============

By over-simplistic denunciations I take it you mean statements like:


> "It is not that there are inequalities because there
>are racial divisions in the US, but the other way around - racial divisions
>are created by class divisions." -quoting Wojtek

AND


> "I think that attempts to answer what was first, class or race, or perhaps to
>attribute shares of variance to "race" culture or "economic class' is simply
>hair splitting and a blame game which first cannot be answered in a
>scientific way, and second does not lead anywhere politically." -quoting Wojtek

Should I point out that these two "complex" statements of yours on the issue are in simple contradiction. AND this last Gem which is always my favorite: generalizing from personal experience to explain or describe a complex object of socio-historical inquiry).


>"In my personal experience, ethnicity does not matter that much (if at all)
>as class." -Quoting Wojtek

Sorry to be so blunt Wojtek but you have been bully-boying your way around on this one.

Travis



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