[lbo-talk] Fantasy That Drives US Politics

[Michael Pugliese]

http://montages.blogspot.com/2006/07/socialist-men-muslims-and-woman.html
>...Where did Proyect's misinterpretation come from? Apparently, the
state of the Left is such that he can't imagine, even as a joke which
my quip obviously was, leftists overthrowing any government ON THEIR
OWN without the aid of imperialists. There is at least one virtue in
this misinterpretation: it's an unconscious admission that Western
leftists are indeed irrelevant, the perennially powerless who can
criticize others but are incapable of presenting an attractive
practical alternative to the status quo that would win the allegiance
of masses in their own countries, let alone anywhere else. In my view,
the admission of our irrelevance today, rather than denial of it, is
the first necessary step toward overcoming it...

Comments:
"You don't understand what I'm saying. What I am asking is whether
intra-revolutionary struggles in the Russian Revolution, the Spanish
Civil War, the Chinese Revolution, etc. had less bloody results than
the intra-revolutionary struggles in Iran."

Couple of things, Yoshie. 1. You don't seem to understand the
difference between revolution and counterrevolution. The events to
which you refer were not exactly and not hardly intra-revolutionary
struggles.

2. As for Proyect, you're wrong. It's not women he's incapable of
debating in a rigorous fashion, it's anyone and everyone.

3. OK more than a couple, if Proyect did have any rigor, he'd have
tossed you off the list for your politics, or lack thereof, when it
comes to Iran. But then he'd have to toss off a whole bunch of his
other favorites who can't get enough of getting nothing for their
service to caudillos, nationalists, etc.
# posted by The Wolf Reports : 8:01 AM