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> 1. Re: AFL-CIO to endorse Joe? (Steve Palmer)
> 2. Merging Chinese Traditional Medicine into the American Health
> System (was, putting quackery to...) (Dwayne Monroe)
> 3. Galloway rips a new one (Andy F)
> 4. RE: Military preparations to attack Iran. Re: [lbo-talk]
> Blumenthal: Iranis next (Wojtek Sokolowski)
> 5. Chechnya restoration requires RUR 18, 2 billion in 2007-
> Kadyrov (Chris Doss)
> 6. Re: All Hail the Lamont Campaign Staff!!! (Dennis Perrin)
> 7. Re: Boycott Japan and China (Dennis Redmond)
> 8. Re: Merging Chinese Traditional Medicine into the American
> Health System (was, putting quackery to...) (joanna)
> 9. Re: Galloway rips a new one (joanna)
> 10. Australia, Dread Land of Death (Chris Doss)
> 11. Re: All Hail the Lamont Campaign Staff!!! (Carrol Cox)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:33:08 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Steve Palmer <spalmer999 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] AFL-CIO to endorse Joe?
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
>Message-ID: <20060810143308.4276.qmail at web81913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>Almost makes me feel sorry for Joe. Didn't they also endorse Dick ... Dick ...
>Dick ... what was his name ... Gephardt? Muscle? Think paunch ...
>
>--- Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
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>><http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/10/nyregion/10lieberman.html?
>>_r=1&oref=slogin>
>>
>>And at least one steadfast Lieberman ally, the A.F.L.-C.I.O.,
>>Connecticut's largest labor group, said it would consider endorsing
>>Mr. Lieberman through the general election, providing crucial muscle
>>for a fall campaign.
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:34:49 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Dwayne Monroe <idoru345 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [lbo-talk] Merging Chinese Traditional Medicine into the
> American Health System (was, putting quackery to...)
>To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
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>I think the two debating camps - roughly divided into
>the Joanna/Ravi team and almost everyone else who has
>contributed - are circling each other but scarcely
>touching.
>
>I thought it might be useful to read an actual
>practioner's point of view - a scientist with a good
>knowledge of and respect for the astoundingly old
>medical traditions of China.
>
>
>...
>
>
>
>
>Merging Chinese Traditional Medicine into the American
>Health System
>
>Charles Feng
>Human Biology, Stanford University
>feng at jyi.org
>
>My grandmother, a frail 78-year-old woman who has
>spent her whole life in China and Taiwan, recently
>came to stay with my family in the San Francisco Bay
>area. At her age, health is of great concern - she
>takes four pills every morning for various ailments
>(such as chronic bronchitis and osteoporosis), and
>often spends a large portion of her days sleeping. All
>of her pills were prescribed by her doctors in Taiwan.
>To supplement her medications, she drinks various
>concoctions made from Chinese herbs and animal parts,
>also brought over from Taiwan. She doesn't have any
>desire to see a Western doctor, and even left the
>United States so she could go back for a physical
>check-up in Taiwan.
>
>On the other hand, my mother - my grandmother's
>daughter - has been in the United States for more than
>25 years. There is not a trace of an accent in her
>English, and she goes to American doctors for all her
>sicknesses. On occasion, she also visits a
>Chinese-trained doctor for a massage or herbal
>medicines. Indeed, she actively uses both Western and
>Chinese traditional medicine. In contrast, I was born
>a few years after my mother immigrated to the United
>States, and the only medicines I have ever taken have
>been prescribed by American-trained doctors. However,
>just as my grandmother is skeptical of Western
>medicine, I in turn doubt many aspects of Chinese
>medicine.
>
>In the United States, both Chinese and
>Chinese-Americans are forced to confront a world in
>which they have medical options from two very
>different cultures; their decisions in response to
>these contrasting systems have serious consequences on
>the outcome of their health. Under the American health
>care system, diseases that are more prevalent within
>the Asian-American community, such as Hepatitis B, are
>often overlooked when Asians are getting check-ups,
>largely because those diseases have a low prevalence
>in communities of other cultures. Likewise, sometimes
>American doctors are not as familiar with Chinese
>culture, either - such as the taboo on HIV and AIDS;
>the Chinese condemn the virus and its resulting
>illness as a disgrace to the family of the afflicted
>individual. On the other hand, traditional Chinese
>medicine is more subjective, and is often based more
>on notions of spirituality than on proven scientific
>rigor. My grandmother, for example, went to two
>different Chinese doctors for the same ailment, and
>received two completely different treatments.
>
>Should Chinese and Chinese-Americans choose either
>Chinese or Western medicine, or should they try to
>combine the two? Perhaps they can learn to adapt to a
>new medicinal culture, or maybe it is best to stay
>within the cultural contexts that are the most
>familiar.
>
>
>[...]
>
>
>full -
>
><http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/issue5/features/feng.html>
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>
>...
>
>.d.
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>
>
>I never liked you Rusty...you were always a smart alec, a sass mouth and a bit of a giggle puss.
>
>Dr, Impossible
>
>......................
>http://monroelab.net/blog/
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:49:16 -0400
>From: "Andy F" <andy274 at gmail.com>
>Subject: [lbo-talk] Galloway rips a new one
>To: lbo <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>Message-ID:
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>Might as well be the one:
>
><http://redstateson.blogspot.com/2006/08/must-see-tv.html>
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