Don't insult _my_ intelligence, Chuck. I never said you supported the Miami Cubans. I just said that in the real world, denouncing the Cuban state in poractice leaves you with no alternative to them. Hypothetically, there are lots of alternatives: Western or Costa Rican style social democracy, revolutionary socialist democracy from below, self-regulating anarchist mutual aid -- etc. But with the US 90 miles awsay and opposed to all these alternatives, none of these are live options.
I'm not saying, and I have never said anything that would make you think, if you were to read wehat I wrote and not impose on it your preconception about what I meant, that I am a fan of the Castro regime in the sense of denying its repressiveness, bureaucratic nature, lack of democracy. Nor do I countenance these things.
But I really don't see a third way for Cuba just now. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't. And I think the Miami Cubans and US domination are worse. So I'll goi with you when you say, what happens in Cuba should be a mattern for Cuban self determination without US (including gusano) interference. What the Cubans do with that, insofar as we can help them by reduciung US involvement, has to be up to them.
--- Chuck <chuck at mutualaid.org> wrote:
> Carrol Cox wrote:
>
> > Chuck's
> > lunatic response to you (quoted below) shows my
> point. You don't get
> > that sort of looniness (or Mpug's sort) outside
> the narrowly defined
> > left (and of course among dogmatic followers of
> Rush, etc).
>
> If you think that my *rational* response to Andie's
> fallacious question
> is lunacy, then perhaps you need to check into an
> institution to get a
> reality check.
>
> Andie asked me a fallacious question, which even
> insults the
> intelligence of list members. The question posits
> that I would support
> the Miami Cubans because I oppose the Castro regime.
> This is just
> ridiculous, because I would never support the Miami
> Cubans. It also
> ignores obvious alternative positions, such as
> supporting
> self-determination for Cubans and doing
> anti-imperialist activism in the
> United States.
>
> Some of you really ought to get over your fanatical
> support for
> left-wing thugs and dictators.
>
> Chuck
>
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