[lbo-talk] Fidel

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 30 22:17:16 PST 2006


Well, we could lock up everyone with a fairly serious communicable disease, even if only an infinitesimal part of the population with that illness actually act sin ways that threatens to infect others. We could also ban automobiles, which kill about 50,000 people a year, a low rate compared to the incidence of driving, but a pretty hefty toll, and then there's the pollution. Also jail recidivist drivers. And while we are at it, who needs freedom anyway? Most people don't value it anyway and would happily trade it for a little security. I learned that from Dostoevsky's Grand Inquisitor. And the handful of people do insist on freedom are a menace to the rest of us and should be shot. Starting with you, Doug, and you, Brian, and me. And Chuck too -- different political perspectives, maybe, but individualists all. So as not to leave the death list onesidedly male, I think we should include Bitch on this list; shed's suspiciously libertarian also. Anyone else who wishes to volunteer may sign up here.

--- Charles Brown <cbrown at michiganlegal.org> wrote:


>
> I don't know if that's the only motive, but it does
> seem to be an
> active influence. Quarantining people with AIDS
> would mean jailing
> lots of people who'd done absolutely nothing wrong
> but get sick. Most
> people with AIDS or HIV don't run around infecting
> other people. It
> would be enormously expensive - there are over a
> million Americans
> who are HIV+. The threat of quarantine would mean
> that no one would
> get tested or seek treatment, which would only make
> things worse.
> It's not like you ca catch AIDS from a sneeze,
> either.
>
> Doug
>
> ^^^^^
> CB; However , Cuba's quarantine method has resulted
> in an order of magnitude
> lower AIDS/HIV rates in Cuba compared to the U.S.
>
> You and Brian ignore that this probably means that
> Cuba saved many gay Cuban
> men's lives as compared with the U.S. What say you
> about this ?
>
> U.S. "freedom" = death for many,many gay men.
> Cuban quarantine = life for many Cuban gay men.
>
>
>
> When AIDS first came out, how could it be known with
> such certainty that it
> could not be transmitted casually ? If the
> scientists couldn't cure it , how
> could they be certain about limits for transmission
> ? If I were the Cubans,
> I wouldn't necessarily trust the U.S. first claims
> to know it couldn't be
> transmitted in other ways than sex , intravenous
> blood. From the Cuban
> standpoint , the U.S. might be using it as a
> biological weapon.
>
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