[lbo-talk] citizens & SP

[Jim Devine]

me: >> the most important question is whether or not a proposal or
demand encourages people to get excited and involved in the process,
beyond the usual suspects (lbo-talkers, union officials, professional
politicians, etc.) <<

Nathan: > Which is why at the moment I'm much more excited by the
"fair share" legislation targetting employers like Wal-Mart than
single payer, since a whole bunch of folks are very excited and
involed in thinking about challenging irresponsible corporations,
rather than sitting in wonk rooms to design the perfect payment system
for health care. <

it's important to combine (1) what issues those outside the "usual
suspects" are interest in with (2) a long-term perspective. Sneering
at "wonk rooms" suggests that you've forgotten about the latter,
Nathan. Therein lies a bunch of leftie sins, which I'll leave
unnamed...

JD