>Doug: >> I'm going to sound like I'm channeling James Heartfield here,
>but Carrol's post is an example of the exhaustion and fundamental
>conservatism that has taken over much of the left ... . I thought we
>were supposed to be about criticizing the quality of things and
>social relations under capitalism - not criticizing growth and change
>in themselves.<<
>
>Yoshie: >Isn't 99.99% of growth and change in the present stage of
>capitalism unnecessary, only selling disposable goods to disposable
>people who are compelled to work harder to buy more disposable goods,
>simply because fixing things doesn't make profits?<
>
>there's no disagreement here, since Yoshie is criticiaize the quality
>of things -- and social relations under capitalism.
I'd disagree with the "99.99%" part. I think computers and cell phones are pretty great. I'd agree with some of the disposability part, though Moore's law mandates rather quick obsolescence.
Doug