[lbo-talk] This Just In: The SEIU's SinceSlicedBread.com Just Selected 21 Finalists---What A Joke!

[lbo at hvgreens.org]

Far-left chin-wagging!  What ideas are good?  Almost all of them are
repackaged ideas that have been around for a long time and are completely
unoriginal.  If you followed the website as I did, you would have seen the
ideas that were not even considered.  My favorite was the one to get rid
of Mondays, literally; that is, go to 60/61 six day weeks.  What this
exercise taught me about unions is why working people are so leary of
them--they often don't really represent the interests of working people
when you get right down to it and this contest shows it.  Rather than
mobilizing working people to shape a better society, they dis-arm workers
by teaching them to be passive observers or economic victims.

Even the idea I voted on to index the minimum wage to the CPI index use to
be the law of the land before 1981.  Furthermore, Republicans could vote
for this because it would lock in a historically low minimium wage at the
Federal level which could very well serve to derail efforts at the State
level to pass more generous minimum wage laws (I voted for it anyway
dispite the misgiving.)

As far as the Green Party goes at least we are trying, the Democrats are
the party of capitulation and the Republicans are the party of christian
zealot mullah wanabees and just plain outright fascists.

Chuck
Ann Arbor


> This is just a lot of far-left chin-wagging.
>
> There were several very good ideas in the final 21 and people on this
> list should go to the site and vote.
>
> Why don't you figure out how to get left-wing ideas some press before
> you call the SEIU's concept a farce.
>
> How farcical is the Green Party for that matter?
>
>
> boddi
>
>
> On 1/9/06, lbo at hvgreens.org <lbo at hvgreens.org> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>>    I just posted the following comment in regard to the SEIU's latest
>> dud, errrr, http://sinceslicedbread.com.  I posted anonomously of
>> course (I wasn't sure I wanted to be associated with what ended up
>> being a major farce.)
>>
>>
>> "I don't see how the winning 21 ideas will do much to improve the lives
>> of
>> ordinary working people or the middle class for that matter. We've been
>> subject to increasing polarization between the haves and have nots for
>> the
>> last 30 years and the winning ideas won't do much to change that. The
>> main
>> way to make life better for ordinary people is to make wages and
>> benefits
>> better for working Americans. We should be working fewer hours for more
>> pay if you want life to get better for most people. How does that happen
>> with the 21 winning ideas? The bias of the wealthy judges came through
>> loud and clear; they want ideas that will make them richer not ideas
>> that
>> will help workers. There is only one idea I wanted to vote for out of
>> the
>> 21 but the site required me to vote for three. I ended up having to vote
>> for two more ideas I was loath to vote for just to get the one I wanted
>> (sounds like our electorial process, doesn't it?) I pitty the poor dues
>> paying members of the SEIU who had to front the cash for this awful
>> experiment out of their hard earned dollars. This looks like a contest
>> that should have been paid for from Chamber of Commerce type
>> organizations, not a union. Hell, I bet the Walton family of Walmarts
>> would have been happy to have paid for this contest given the way it
>> turned out (with unions blowing their member's money on contests like
>> this, billionaires like the Waltons have nothing to fear.)"
>>
>> Chuck
>> Ann Arbor
>>
>>
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