Green Party trying? To do what? And I ask as person who has voted for more than one Green candidate.
boddi
On 1/10/06, lbo at hvgreens.org <lbo at hvgreens.org> wrote:
> Far-left chin-wagging! What ideas are good? Almost all of them are
> repackaged ideas that have been around for a long time and are completely
> unoriginal. If you followed the website as I did, you would have seen the
> ideas that were not even considered. My favorite was the one to get rid
> of Mondays, literally; that is, go to 60/61 six day weeks. What this
> exercise taught me about unions is why working people are so leary of
> them--they often don't really represent the interests of working people
> when you get right down to it and this contest shows it. Rather than
> mobilizing working people to shape a better society, they dis-arm workers
> by teaching them to be passive observers or economic victims.
>
> Even the idea I voted on to index the minimum wage to the CPI index use to
> be the law of the land before 1981. Furthermore, Republicans could vote
> for this because it would lock in a historically low minimium wage at the
> Federal level which could very well serve to derail efforts at the State
> level to pass more generous minimum wage laws (I voted for it anyway
> dispite the misgiving.)
>
> As far as the Green Party goes at least we are trying, the Democrats are
> the party of capitulation and the Republicans are the party of christian
> zealot mullah wanabees and just plain outright fascists.
>
> Chuck
> Ann Arbor
>
>
> > This is just a lot of far-left chin-wagging.
> >
> > There were several very good ideas in the final 21 and people on this
> > list should go to the site and vote.
> >
> > Why don't you figure out how to get left-wing ideas some press before
> > you call the SEIU's concept a farce.
> >
> > How farcical is the Green Party for that matter?
> >
> >
> > boddi
> >
> >
> > On 1/9/06, lbo at hvgreens.org <lbo at hvgreens.org> wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I just posted the following comment in regard to the SEIU's latest
> >> dud, errrr, http://sinceslicedbread.com. I posted anonomously of
> >> course (I wasn't sure I wanted to be associated with what ended up
> >> being a major farce.)
> >>
> >>
> >> "I don't see how the winning 21 ideas will do much to improve the lives
> >> of
> >> ordinary working people or the middle class for that matter. We've been
> >> subject to increasing polarization between the haves and have nots for
> >> the
> >> last 30 years and the winning ideas won't do much to change that. The
> >> main
> >> way to make life better for ordinary people is to make wages and
> >> benefits
> >> better for working Americans. We should be working fewer hours for more
> >> pay if you want life to get better for most people. How does that happen
> >> with the 21 winning ideas? The bias of the wealthy judges came through
> >> loud and clear; they want ideas that will make them richer not ideas
> >> that
> >> will help workers. There is only one idea I wanted to vote for out of
> >> the
> >> 21 but the site required me to vote for three. I ended up having to vote
> >> for two more ideas I was loath to vote for just to get the one I wanted
> >> (sounds like our electorial process, doesn't it?) I pitty the poor dues
> >> paying members of the SEIU who had to front the cash for this awful
> >> experiment out of their hard earned dollars. This looks like a contest
> >> that should have been paid for from Chamber of Commerce type
> >> organizations, not a union. Hell, I bet the Walton family of Walmarts
> >> would have been happy to have paid for this contest given the way it
> >> turned out (with unions blowing their member's money on contests like
> >> this, billionaires like the Waltons have nothing to fear.)"
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >> Ann Arbor
> >>
> >>
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