[lbo-talk] the state

George Scialabba scialabb at fas.harvard.edu
Wed Jul 12 15:37:20 PDT 2006



>It's enough to make one want to retire to a life of aesthetic contemplation

A very civilized impulse.

At 05:59 PM 7/12/2006, you wrote:


>On Jul 12, 2006, at 5:34 PM, JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote:
>
>>And how do you propose to dissolve those boundaries--with the
>>bourgeoisie in
>>control of the state apparatus and armed to the teeth? Flowers in
>>the guns?
>>They don't take kindly to even small suggestions for
>>redistribution, you know.
>
>This is what's really hard. How can you have an effective political
>movement that doesn't ossify into something authoritarian? How can
>you reconcile a decentralized, democratic structure with getting
>anything done? Listening to greens makes me feel like a Leninist, and
>listening to Leninists makes me feel like an anarchist. The Bolshies
>won their revo because the Russian bourgeoisie had fallen apart.
>Short of a piece of luck like that, what do you do? And though I
>catch hell every time I say this, just what have the Zapatistas, with
>their nonstatist concept of revolution, actually accomplished? It's
>enough to make one want to retire to a life of aesthetic contemplation.
>
>Doug
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