[lbo-talk] We're all Hezbollah...

Joel Schalit managingeditor at tikkun.org
Mon Jul 24 12:12:49 PDT 2006


I agree with Bryan on every point here. none of the hegemonic political formations leading this fight in Lebanon are worth supporting in any sense of the word. they both wage war on each other's civilian populations, and that, irrespective of their political orientations, is worth the utmost of condemnation.

On Jul 24, 2006, at 12:54 PM, Bryan Atinsky wrote:


> I hope to end this discussion here, because the important thing is
> finding a way to end Israel's aggression against the Palestinian and
> Lebanese peoples...and this discussion is digressive from this
> centrally
> important issue...but in short...
>
> www.leninology. blogspot.com wrote:
>> Brian Atinsky wrote:
>>
>>> I am interested in your definition of terrorism. Do you have some
>>> sort
>>> of objective definition or is it like the definition of a weed: a
>>> plant
>>> you don't like?
>
>>
>> Good point, and your answer is the closest to a proper definition
>> I've
>> ever found.
>
> Well then, that is all very nice and circular. Hezbollah has
> definitely
> not done a terrorist attack, because you support their actions and
> define it as such. Fine.
>
>> But I must mean something by it, so I suppose I
>> mean it in the sense that Hezbollah has not conducted attacks on
>> civilians in Israel until this war,
>
> That is patently false. Are you telling me this is the first time they
> have shot Katyushas at civilian targets in Israel? C'mon man, this is
> embarrassing. I seem to remember driving up north near Kiryat Shmona a
> few years ago when Katyushas started hitting the city, and had to
> divert
> my route, but I guess I dreamt it, because they have never done it
> before because you said so. And all the other news reports over the
> years, figments of my imagination? Granted they were often sent in
> retaliation for Israeli attacks in Lebanon, but we are talking about a
> long history of targeting civilians.
>
>> and even here it has responded to
>> Israel's attacks on Lebanese civilians and could be said to be
>> engaging
>> in a military rather than terrorist strategy (hence the sinking of a
>> warship).
>
> Wait, I want to get this straight...because Israel is extensively
> targeting civilian infrastructure and populations (aka, committing
> acts
> of terror or whatever you choose to call it or not) and Hezbollah
> hit a
> military target such as the Israeli Navy gunboat, then this means that
> when Hezbollah targets Israeli cities in the north, they are military
> targets and not civilian targets?
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