[lbo-talk] violent crime up

Doug Henwood dhenwood at panix.com
Thu Jun 15 07:58:37 PDT 2006


On Jun 15, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Jordan Hayes wrote:


> Doug admits finally:
>
>> That's not what I'm saying.
>
> Maybe that's not what you're _meaning_ but it is what you're
> _saying_ ...

A sample of what I said:


> On Jun 13, 2006, at 9:09 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote:
>
>
>>> Switzerland is another frequent counter-example.
>>>
>>
>> I'm always troubled by 'counter examples' to flawed points.
>> There's no counter-example to the claim that the combination of
>> American "culture" and millions of guns and gun owners results in
>> 10,000 murders/year.
>>
>> It's just bad statistics.
>>
>
> How's that? You have some examples that show both similiarities and
> differences. Similarity: lots of guns. Differences: on the
> dependent side, murders; on the independent side, imperial history,
> frontier culture, inequality, racial heterogeneity... You control
> for the similarities and try to see if the dissimilarities are
> significant. That sounds like standard stats to me.
>



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