--- Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
> joanna wrote:
>
> >Carrol Cox wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Julio Huato wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>Massad's critique of M&W's paper misses the main
> points: that the
> >>>policies the U.S. follows in the Middle East,
> whether or not
> >>>determined by the influence of the Israel lobby,
> *contradict* the
> >>>interest of the U.S. capitalists taken as a
> whole,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>This is little short of a claim to divine
> inspiration. Neither let
> >>critics nor ruling class intellectuals can reach
> any consensus whatever
> >>on what is "the interest of the u.s. capitalists."
> It is unbelievable
> >>arrogance for any one person to claim that he
> KNOWS what that interest
> >>is.
> >>
> >This is so tiresome Carol. So very, very tiresome.
> Let's just say
> >that Julio is starting a conversation about what
> those interests
> >might be. It really bothers me when you attempt to
> put a stop to
> >conversations before they even start.
>
> It's also politically odd, since it seems to argue
> that there's no
> such thing as a US ruling class with some idea about
> its collective
> interests and some institutional way to realize
> them. That may be -
> and that's the issue I'm researching now with my
> ruling class project
> - but if it's true, that would be a very important
> conversation, not
> one worth stopping.
>
> Doug
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