J T.
On 5/13/06, joanna <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> He was a precocious, talented libertine. Some argue that the language had
> reached such a pitch of perfection by his time that Rochester could not but
> lisp in verse. But I think he really was a first rate poet doing his best in
> a blighted time.
>
> But the philosophy he espouses, is nothing new -- the vanity of man, which
> expresses itself through bondage to the senses, overreliance on
> logic/reason, and foolish imagination.
>
> As for the capitalization. I know it was firmly in place by the 18th
> century -- capitalizing nouns. (Further evidence of our mistaking ideas for
> things, perhaps.) Carrol could probably enlighten us as to why we see it in
> the 17th. with Rochester.
>
> http://www.druidic.org/roc-bio.htm
>
> Joanna
>
>
> ravi wrote:
>
> At around 12/5/06 5:48 pm, Jerry Monaco wrote:
>
> On 5/12/06, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
> The Imperfect Enjoyment
> John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester
>
> Oh, this is just too good!
>
> For anyone interested some of the Second Earl of Rochester's poems can
> be found here.
> http://www.poeforward.com/poetrycorner/wilmot/poems.htm
>
> What is this vacuous nonsense? Here I quote from one of his pieces
> titled "A Satyre [sic] Against Mankind":
>
> His senses are too gross; and he'll contrive
> A sixth, to contradict the other five;
> And before certain instinct will prefer
> Reason, which fifty times for one does err.
> Reason, an ignis fatuus of the mind,
> Which leaving light of nature, sense, behind,
> Pathless and dangerous wand'ring ways it takes,
> Through Error's fenny bogs and thorny brakes;
> Whilst the misguided follower climbs with pain
> Mountains of whimseys, heaped in his own brain;
>
> What is with the complicated language to make a silly point about
> Reason? And what's with the uppercase 'R'? Some sort of pre-pomo? And
> once you strip the fancy language and unnecessary Latin, what is left?
> Is it even correct about 'reason'? Turns out not. As Richard Dawkins
> [more politely] said of Keats.
>
> What a waste of time reading this sort of stuff. Nothing I have read so
> far about him makes me think he is worth my time! Was this guy a Nazi by
> any chance?
>
> --ravi (do I need a smiley?)
>
>
> P.S: Jerry, you are a good sport, and I still owe you some responses.
> Interesting poems by the way... though I never quite learnt how to read
> poetry :-(. But the segments of Hölderlin that I have had a chance to
> read (thanks to guess who?) were beautiful, even to my untrained eye/mind.
>
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