[lbo-talk] more Churchill/Holocaust

[Chris Doss]

I think the difference here is that Manifest Destiny
was successful (from the viewpoint of 19th-century
White Americans) whereas the push for Liebensraum
failed (spectacularly). If the Nazis had actually won
the war and set up a Greater Germany, you probably
would have people in the Reich saying exactly the same
thing as modern Americans do -- "eggs were broken, but
look at this great country we built!"

On 18 May 2006 at 10:05, andie nachgeborenen wrote:


> Even leaving the Holocaust and its 12 million
victims
> (including the Red Army POWs, Communists,
homosexuals,
> Roma, _and_ Jews), who on earth would say that WWII
> with its remaining, say 40 million dead, was "all
for
> the best"? Also conisdering that "increasing the
rate
> of technology advance" led to the creation and use
of
> atomic weapons? This is bizarre. It would be cruel
and
> insensitive to say to a Jew, "the destruction of
> European Jewry is an insignificant footnote;" worse
to
> say "it was justified by its unintended
consequences"
> -- just as it would be insulting to say to a native
> American similar things. Or to assert them inother
> contexts. Because, after all, the destruction of the
> Native Americans (far more certainly that WWII) did
> lead to the unification and modernizing of the US
and
> increase in the rate of technological progress. Do
you
> think that makes, e.g., Wounded Knee or the Trail of
> Tears justified? I don't think so.

Nu, zayats, pogodi!

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