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* Re: [lbo-talk] Alternet reviews Singer's latest (The Way We Eat)
* Re: [lbo-talk] Alternet reviews Singer's latest (The Way We Eat)
* Re: [lbo-talk] Alternet reviews Singer's latest (The Way We Eat)
* Re: [lbo-talk] Alternet reviews Singer's latest (The Way We Eat)
* Re: [lbo-talk] Indian PC market grew 30 pc to 4.6 mn in 05-06
=========== Message 1 =========== Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Alternet reviews Singer's latest
At around 23/5/06 3:54 pm, Dwayne Monroe wrote:
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> Let the flaming begin!
>
> ==============
>
> There'll be no flaming from me.
> I'm all for a vegan "lifestyle".
>
In truth, I could not pull off a vegan lifestyle. Its too difficult!
> But then again, I'm also all for supplementing my
> unreliable flesh-based mind with a (yet to be
> invented) cybernetic co-processor so memory becomes
> perfectly searchable and emotions are observable with
> the cool reserve of Dean Martin nursing his apple
> juice on stage at the Sands in 1962.
Sure, sounds good! Sign me up.
=========== Message 2 =========== Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Alternet reviews Singer's latest
At around 24/5/06 8:31 pm, / dave / wrote:
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> And leave it to me to gloss over the fact that people actually like
> good-tasting food now and then.
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Your point being that vegetarian or vegan food doesn't taste good?
=========== Message 3 =========== Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Alternet reviews Singer's latest
At around 24/5/06 6:04 pm, Doug Henwood wrote:
> info at pulpculture.org wrote:
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>> And, my point would be, of course, even if you ate all the fresh
>> spinach you needed, it would cost more to buy loads of fresh spinach
>> than the meat you'd buy to get you fat, protein, and B in.
>
> And your primal urges to tear flesh would remain unfulfilled.
>
Thankfully I feel no such primal urge!
=========== Message 4 =========== Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Alternet reviews Singer's latest
At around 24/5/06 7:01 pm, info at pulpculture.org wrote:
> <snip>
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A general response to the various points raised:
I think Singer is not referring to people with particular needs, such as those like you with heart conditions, that require specialized diets. Such are not representative of the general case, yes?
I mentioned that I have a clean bill of health to imply that I do not think it is necessary to count and keep track (again in the general case) of vitamins, proteins, etc. It is not some theoretical, unexamined issue that we are discussing here. Large populations of human beings have lived, quite healthy and long lives, on entirely vegetarian diets. And they have come upon their diets through an evolutionary process, but have no method or need to quantify and track components, today.
Singer, like many of us who are working for large scale change, does not expect everyone in the West to wake up and adopt a better or humane diet that is also healthy and complete. It will require, no doubt, a gradual transition with careful planning, etc. At this point, I am sure Singer, like me, would be happy to have people start thinking about how we treat animals (and plants, and if animism is your thing, rocks and clouds).
=========== Message 5 =========== Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Indian PC market grew 30 pc to 4.6
At around 24/5/06 5:41 pm, Dennis Redmond wrote:
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> Hmm, interesting, total PC shipments in China were about 19 million during
> 2005. If India follows the same growth trajectory as China, there's going
> to be the market space for the Indian equivalent of an Acer or Lenovo. But
> does India have a domestic PC manufacturing base, wafer fab
> infrastructure, anything like that?
>
>From my own memory and meagre knowledge: India does not have a strong
infrastructure or knowledge base for high-tech electronics,
microcomponents, semiconductors, etc. The nascent effort to develop
indigenous technologies through a semiconductor research facility (I
forget the name) in the late 80s suffered a setback due to a fire that
wiped out the facility.
--ravi
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