This is in no way an argument for saccharine obits, or against critically assessing a person's work, and god knows I haven't held back with anybody on that front. Really, would you start at the moment of death? During terminal illness? What a vile gang, pretending to some kind of liberalism or even radicalism, and fully partaking of the meanness of the times.
Jesse Lemisch
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne Monroe" <idoru345 at yahoo.com> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:07 PM Subject: [lbo-talk] Ellen Willis dies
> Jesse Lemisch:
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> These posts are so amazing that they cry out to be
> forwarded to feminist listservs. Is there any rule
> against that, or are these posts, as I assume, public?
>
>
> ..................
>
> In some circles, such forwarding is considered bad
> form. Of course, that doesn't prevent it.
>
> The archives are quite public.
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>
> ..
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> These sorts of 'discussions' never end well do they?
>
>
> The Outraged never gives his or her debating opposites
> the benefit of the doubt, choosing, instead, to
> interpret everything they say as being only more
> evidence of perfidious motives and imaginings.
>
> In this case, it's the alleged disrespect of Ellen
> Willis, in past conflicts it was Stalin or racism or
> religion or alleged support for the Weather
> Underground 5,000 years ago or...
>
> So now Jesse, you've assumed the role of Melville's
> Ishmael, who "alone, survived to tell thee..." You're
> the singular voice of defense for feminism, adrift on
> a churning sea of "male rage". This rage apparently
> feeds on hatred of women like an H-bomb fuels itself
> on deuterium.
>
>
> At no point, I suspect, will you sit back and consider
> that maybe, what people - including, mind you,
> feminists such as Bitch - are saying (that the issue
> wasn't attacking Willis as a feminist thinker but
> questioning the idea that obits should be crafted only
> from sweetness) is actually what they mean.
>
>
> Come to think of it, that's the really "amazing" part
> of this thread.
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> On the plus side, your implied accusations of
> anti-feminist thought allow me to add to the litany of
> Satanic service I first compiled here:
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> <http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2004/2004-September/020857.html>
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>
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> .d.
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> >From 30 feet away she looked like a lot of class. From 10 feet away she
looked like something made up to be seen from 30 feet away.
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> Raymond Chandler
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> ......................
> http://monroelab.net/blog/
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