Training and prospects of a better future and reestablishement of life's heroism is the thing.
The present properties of everyone are changeable.
Ramesh Bhatt
---- Original Message ----- From: "joanna" <123hop at comcast.net> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] trash talking the lumpenproletariat
> Woj I am disappointed.
>
> When you use a word like "life styles" you are suggesting that the life we
> lead is something we choose, in the same way that when shopping we choose
> an old fashioned style, or a youthful style, or a goth style.
>
> I don't think people choose to live in slums. I really don't.
>
> As for their behavior....it covers a spectrum as with all people.
>
> Joanna
>
> Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
>
>>B:
>>
>>
>>Yeah, it's kind of weird that Woj, who used to have a
>>Johns Hopkins Uni. sig line, is comparing, you, Bill
>>
>>[WS:] FYI, Johns Hopkins campus is surrounded by a slum, which BTW is a
>>big
>>problem for the university, because it makes it difficult to attract
>>international students and fellows. Most of the faculty and staff also
>>live
>>outside Baltimore (which is a bone of contention between the city and JHU)
>>and those who do not like long commutes simply move to greener pastures.
>>Quality of life is an increasingly important consideration in deciding
>>where
>>people want to work or study.
>>
>>I live in the city near the campus since I came to JHU in 1992 mainly
>>because I like city living. As a result of that experience, my attitude
>>toward the underclass changed quite substantially. As they say,
>>familiarity
>>breeds contempt, and a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. I am
>>not a conservative, to be sure, but I have no sympathy toward the lumpen
>>either. I do not hate, judge or condemn them, I just do not want be near
>>them.
>>
>>To say it differently, I do not particularly care what life styles people
>>choose to pursue or not to pursue and for what reasons as long as these
>>life
>>styles do not impinge on mine. I try not to judge people for how they
>>live
>>or what they do unless they harm others or animals, but I am not trying to
>>save them either unless somebody asks me for help. I do not like
>>particular
>>life styles - not only those of the lumpen, but of the suburban middle
>>class
>>as well - but generally do not rebuke people for pursuing these life
>>styles.
>>I just do not want to be a part of it. However, it gets on my nerves when
>>someone implies that I am a bad person because I do not like these life
>>styles.
>>
>>So it is really that simple - if somebody implies that I or people like me
>>are morally suspect because they do not subscribe to a particular cultural
>>trope about particular lifestyles, I am perfectly capable of paying back
>>in
>>kind. If I hear someone saying "fuck the yuppies" I feel like saying
>>"fuck
>>the lumpen."
>>Wojtek
>>
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