[lbo-talk] Psychic TV -- worth seeing?

B. docile_body at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 6 02:06:28 PDT 2006


I don't think Boyd Rice is terribly bright, but then again, I like music by people who are not exactly the Stephen Hawkings of the world.

Having said that, I don't even like 96% of the "music" Boyd Rice has made. I was just responding to Pugliese's listing of scholars that might have written about Boyd Rice (like Kevin Coogan) by saying, look, dude, if you wonder what Boyd Rice thinks, here's him saying it in his own words, at his own web page. There are tons of performers and artists I respect way, WAAAYYY more than Rice. But Rice and Psychic TV came up in the thread, so I was responding. Boyd Rice and Genesis P-Orridge are friends, by both of their accounts. And Michael seems to like P-Orridge. DOES THAT MEAN MICHAEL PUGLIESE IS A FASCIST because he seems to like P-Orridge, who is friends with Rice!!!?!? OMG!!!!!! !!!!! :OOOOOO

I don't think either Rice or P-Orridge are politically fascist in any meaningful sense. They come from a twilight, performance art sort of milieu where it's dumb to project too much politicization onto it. They might come out in a Nazi SS uniform one night, bubble wrap the next night, etc.

"The fascination with the occult, new technology and conspiracies (ably assisted by magazines such as Vague and Rapid Eye) led to the inevitable – and perhaps fortunate – departure of this group from punkdom into an as yet non-categorized collective of individuals who went on to industrial music, Thee Temple of Psychick Youth and occulture in a big way. Disadvantages: only two which spring to my mind. First of all, this group became by its very nature elitist and snobbery was rife: second and more importantly, the package was soon adopted: one read H.P. Lovecraft and Robert Anton Wilson, one quoted from Aleister Crowley, one forced oneself to be almost obsessed with Charles Manson, Jim Jones, William Burroughs, Bryon Gysin, the assassination of President Kennedy, dreamachines, Wilhelm Reich. Anton La Vey and who Genesis P-Orridge hates this week. The departure from punkdom has thus enabled these people to continue as an unofficial sad undefined subculture but one which still possesses inherent defects, the pose often being greater than the substance of which it is comprised."

(From: http://users.tinyworld.co.uk/acidstings1/APOSTLESanarchopunk.html )

-B.

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Chris Doss wrote:

"He [Boyd Rice] doesn't seem terribly scary (he doesn't seem terribly bright either -- Anton Lavey? Come on!)."



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