As a kid (yes a 9 yr. old, precocious mofo) I was radicalized by seeing photos of the My Lai massacre in Life magazine. (Famous New Left poster, btw, http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2003/2003-October/025302.html
http://www.foothilltech.org/ccrouch/political_art_webpage/pages/And_babies.htm
) As a college student I was mentored by Blase Bonpane, who Marc probably knows. (As a Jesuit priest thrown out of Guatemala in the mid 60's) From Blase and reading numerous studies about El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, when I was active in CISPES, as well as the slaughter in Indonesia in '65 (see the National Security archive webpgs. for the death squad dossiers...crucial help on the database, btw, for Guatemalan military intelligence, according to Allan Nairn in The Progressive, provided by Control Dataq Corp. therre in Minnesota) and other USG sponsored bloodbaths, I think I have a pretty good understanding of the crimes of the USG.
What you lack, Philion and Perrin, whatever good work you have done on the PRC and class struggles there, or Perrin's anarchism, is any understanding, indeed a positive aversion to any grappling with the crimes committed vs. millions of leftists by Leninist parties and regimes.
On 10/16/06, Stephen E Philion <philion at hawaii.edu> wrote:
> The eternal victim of the left asked me:
> Turner read any of these?
> A side note, Serge Thion, below, as those who have read
> Finkelkraut on French ultra-left Holocaust Denial and
> Cambodian-American Sophal Ear on Chomsky, Herman, Lacouture, Laura
> Summers, Kiernan, Chandler, Gareth Porter, and Malcolm Caldwell
> (killed by the KR), reads him w/caution.
> Kiernan's book on Pol Pot and KR, was published by Verso.
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> --Of course he's read those, he's a very careful and sharp reader of the literature, and a former Pentagon analyst to boot. And he does a great job picking apart the bogus numbers and suggests what are far less hysteria oriented readings of the numbers. Seriously, just go check out his arguments with hawkish dilletantes like Totten or similar types at Cooper's blog.
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> BTW, I notice you've successfully turned attention away from Turner's devestating reply to Cooper's sloppy 'rorschascher' analogy for the quite carefully , played by US military playbook, methodology of the recent Lancet study. Smart tactic. Avoid the icon being refuted and stick to non-sequitors.
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> Steve
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> Stephen Philion
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> Department of Sociology and Anthropology
> St. Cloud State University
> St. Cloud, MN
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