Joanna
Jesse Lemisch wrote:
>This seems to me to confirm that pizza, another ethnic food, is in terrible
>decline. I wonder what you think of the tarted up versions in fine
>restaurants? My memory is that the New Haven pizza (can't recall the name of
>the place) is great because traditional.
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>Obviously, as in the case of the aforementioned Buffalo Italian Thanksiving,
>fusion can be great. But so far as I can tell, the bad bagels around reflect
>no fusion, no ethnic contribution from outside of the original, just
>collapse.
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>Jesse
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jerry Monaco" <monacojerry at gmail.com>
>To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
>Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 6:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] bagels/ethnicity
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>>On 9/9/06, Jesse Lemisch <utopia1 at attglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>This leads me to some speculations and questions about bagels and
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>ethnicity.
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>>>Far from a Jewish nationalist myself, I do feel that what has become of
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>the
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>>>bagel is an offense against ethnicity, particularly here on the upper
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>West
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>>>Side, and similar offenses against other ethnicities would bring angry
>>>responses.
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>>Oh that is just silly. think about what happened to the pizza, or to
>>sushi... But who complains? Except for the fact that I can rarely get
>>good pizza in the city where my great grandparents family first made
>>it 75 years ago, I have no real complaints. In the late 80s and early
>>90s in Manhattan you could rarely even find an Italian owned pizza
>>place, they were mostly owned by Albanians. With pizza they lacked
>>imagination. I look forward to the time when Mexicans and Japanese
>>own the pizza places here. Then maybe it will get interesting again.
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>>Jerry
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>>>H & H (Hispanic) are highly sugared; Absolute (Thai) -- along
>>>with most other sources -- lacks the traditional hardness on the
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>surface
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>>>(during WWII there were jokes about Jewish bombardiers dropping bagels
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>>>the enemy). It may be that Jewish-made bagels have also deteriorated.
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