[lbo-talk] 9/11 plot denialists are nuttier

[Joseph Wanzala]

yes, the mystical realms of conspiracy theory in which prosecutors toil in their efforts to bring cases against capitalist criminals for their conspiracies to fleece the people - e.g. Enron - which was doubtless a monumental conspiracy that was prosecutued based on a theory of how it was carried out. that is, marxist analysis deals with abstraction - 'conspiracy theory' deals with the reality of capitalism.> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 22:14:48 -0700> From: fuerdenkommunismus at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] 9/11 plot denialists are nuttier> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> > > --- Jerry Monaco <monacojerry at gmail.com> wrote:> > >  In the place of ruling> > classes and the capitalist system they substitute> > the grand conspiracy of> > history.  And this happens over and over again.> > Maybe the fact that the grand conspiracy of history> can be used to substitute for the place of ruling> classes should suggest to us that attributing things> to the ruling classes is nothing but a watered-down,> Marxist version of conspiracy theory.> > Not that there isn't a ruling class (and an owning> class), it is just that these classes are immanent> categories of a society of generalized commodity> production.  We ascribe these classes too much agency> when we forget that they are just as subsumed to the> imperatives of the value form and the state as much as> the rest of us are.> > The two overriding imperatives of this society,> depending upon where one is positioned in it, are 1)> one's need to sell one's ability to labor in exchange> for a wage and 2) the need to accumulate capital in> order to maintain one's self in the competition> between capitals.> > The state's role is to maintain a stable framework for> those two imperatives.> > Once we depart from that, we enter the mystical realms> of conspiracy theory.> > > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___________________________________> http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <../attachments/20060910/e35d616d/attachment.htm>