[lbo-talk] value form

Mike Ballard swillsqueal at yahoo.com.au
Wed Sep 27 23:21:53 PDT 2006


"boddi satva" <lbo.boddi at gmail.com> asked:

Again I ask: "what's wrong with producing commodities?"

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Nothing, if you want to accept the conditions for the (re)generation of private property, classes and the State. The history of the 19th Century utopian movements Owen, Amana colony... and the 20th Century experiments e.g. kibbutz, various Stalinist and Social Democratic set-ups, demonstrate this quite conclusively, as far as I'm concerned.

In a socialist society (a classless society), there is nobody to sell commodities to, because production is by and for the producers themselves--no separate class owns the social product of their labour. Social(ist), social ownership, social control of production, production by and for ourselves, for our use and need. Think of it this way: In a present day sense, why would Ford need to sell Ford doors to a Ford factory? Ford workers produce Ford doors for Ford cars which are owned by the shareholders of Ford. Fords are then sold to the market oustide of the factory. The Fords roll out of the factory to the showrooms, where they are sold for a profit which benefits the Ford shareholders.

Once a commodity is purchased, it retains its use-value for the purchaser. Dad lends daughter the Ford for use and need. It's the family car. Why would we producers want to sell ourselves stuff we already own?

Best,

Mike B)

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