[lbo-talk] value form

boddi satva lbo.boddi at gmail.com
Wed Sep 27 22:41:35 PDT 2006


How in the world does producing a commodity implies that people have to have the threat of starvation hanging over them?

These things just don't follow logically.

boddi

On 9/27/06, Bill Bartlett <billbartlett at aapt.net.au> wrote:
> At 7:04 PM -0700 27/9/06, joanna wrote:
>
> >I don't think he's saying it's evil; I think he's saying it's not necessary.
> >I don't quite see how creating something that I myself don't want,
> >necessarily results in a commodity.
> >
> >I just made many pints of raspberry and strawberry jam. Some I'll
> >eat; some I'll give away. I don't think that makes the jam a
> >commodity.
>
> No, stuff you make to give away isn't a commodity. My raspberries are
> not going to do well this year, so its a pity I can't take advantage
> of your jam. I'll have to make more redcurrent jelly. I can always
> give away a lot of that, it makes great presents.
>
> The question of whether commodifying everything is necessary is still
> an open one though I suppose. If I was starving I might not be so
> generous. People turn their produce and indeed their bodies, into
> commodities to sell because they need to, not because they prefer it.
> Is this necessary? Is it the case that human society is unable to
> produce enough for everyone to live securely, or is it perhaps the
> case that people wouldn't contribute without the threat of starvation
> hanging over them? Nobody seems to thinks so, yet we still have an
> economic system based on just those assumptions.
>
> Bill Bartlett
> Bracknell Tas
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