[lbo-talk] How to explain things to (right-wing) libertarians

[bitch at pulpculture.org]

dewds! i'm spitting my coffee all over laughing at your hilarious jibes. 
gotta spring for the dry cleaning bill now! my good friend and mentor grew 
up in working class boston and went on to go to UConn. Smart guy, but still 
wouldn't let me put shoes on a surface other than a floor (bad luck) and 
filled out all the reader's digest sweepstakes things, believing the 
letters he'd get about being a finalist in the contest (*rolls eyes*). I 
don't know about this irrational belief in superior education nullifying 
belief in nonsense or gullibility....

bl

At 12:36 PM 3/31/2007, you wrote:
>>From: Miles Jackson <cqmv at pdx.edu>
>>
>>Carl Remick wrote:
>> > Conceding that coalition-building may be a regrettable necessity, I think
>> > experience shows that the secret to any kind of successful bargaining 
>> is to
>> > *start* from an extreme, unreasonable, uncompromising position ;-)
>>
>>As a seasoned union bargaining team member, I can verify that Carl's
>>strategy is the least effective way to bargain.
>
>In view of how powerful and effective US unions have been for many, many 
>years, I once again defer to superior wisdom.
>
>>The first, crucial step
>>in effective negotiation is to identify mutual interests; then the
>>involved parties can work on how those mutual interests can be achieved.
>
>Gee, if only AFL founder Samuel Gompers had known that the "win/win" POV 
>is the key to sucess, he might have been an effective labor 
>advocate.  It's a pity he was mired in an adversarial frame of mind 
>reflected by comments like:
>
>*  "We do want more, and when it becomes more, we shall still want more. 
>And we shall never cease to demand more until we have received the results 
>of our labor."
>
>*  "It is impossible for capitalists and laborers to have common interests."
>
>Carl