[lbo-talk] China (was: The Iraq Policy of the U.S. Ruling Class )

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 11 12:06:48 PDT 2007


Put me down for "Hope-inspiring developmentalist rising power."

Technically, China's not "the only large developing nation to make a quantum leap into successful mass industrialization," since the USSR did that too.

--- Jim Straub <rustbeltjacobin at gmail.com> wrote:


> Would it be invitation to oversimplification if I
> asked if people on this
> list who hold a particular assessment or opinion of
> China, to put theirs
> forth in brief if possible? The only large
> developing nation to make a
> quantum leap into successful mass industrialization,
> under the auspices of a
> nominally communist government, but I don't really
> know what the scope of
> opinion is on what their government is doing from
> the left. Degraded
> workers state? Worst of both worlds, stanlinst
> neoliberalism?
> Hope-inspiring developmentalist rising power?
>
> What do informed lbo people feel about contemporary
> china?
>
>
>
> >
> > China and Vietnam borrowed and refined the
> developmental state strategies
> > invented by post-WW II continental Europe, Japan,
> Taiwan and South Korea.
> > These countries invested heavily in education and
> technology, created
> > welfare states or ensured egalitarian
> distributions of wealth, and most of
> > all, disciplined capital. The state wasn't the
> executive committee of the
> > bourgeoisie; the bourgeoisie was more like the
> executive committee of the
> > state. China right now is rolling out a huge
> national broadband system,
> > and owns major stakes in most of its leading
> industries. Another example:
> > one third of the German banking system is publicly
> owned; Germany's
> > powerful unions put a check on what capital can
> do. Germany's
> > government-mandated renewable energy boom is
> another fine example of what
> > developmental states can do.
> >
> >
> > ___________________________________
>
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