[lbo-talk] Bush: vacation champ

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 12 17:25:15 PDT 2007


I went to grad school (CUA) in DC. I lived in Brookland and on the Hill. *shudder* I have nothing good to say about it. My home town of San Diego is astronomically better.

--- andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> DC is a _lot_ more cosmopolitan today than when I
> grew
> up in the area (N.Va.) thirty years ago; N.Va. was
> still pretty rural and DC was culturally provincial.
> It's still provincial in the way that any important
> self-absorbed town is, New York is about the most
> provincial place I know that way, but these days DC
> is
> loaded with top flight restaurants of all
> nationalities, lots of good music of all kinds, even
> pretty decent theater, movies that are not all
> blockbuster multiplexes (though some of the better
> art
> houses have shut down), better bookstores than
> anything south of 85th St. in NY. It lacks a top
> flight opera or many really good musical theater
> venues, but the NSO is really pretty good now and
> both
> the Official Stage, e.g., the JFK Center, Shady
> Grove,
> Wolftrap, and the experimental off-B-wayish theater
> is
> quite good.
>
> Now there are real problems: most of DC outside
> Northwest is a high-crime slum, and my anecdotal
> experience is that crime is a far greater danger to
> DC
> residents even in NW neighborhoods than to people in
> corresponding areas in NYC, Chicago, or LA; the DC
> schools are a catastrophe, as bad as the Chicago
> Public Schools, if possible; traffic is frightful --
> the Metro's pretty good for an American Metro,
> though
> -- and you don't want to think about the Beltway;
> the
> VA burbs are frightful desolate sprawl whether they
> are rich or poor and most of the collar counties in
> MD
> are not much better, College Park excepted.
>
> But yeah, setting aside all the jokes, DC is getting
> pretty cosmopolitan. It's not efficient, but is NY
> efficient? Chicago? LA? Boston And it has a lot more
> charm than it used to, in some areas, quite a lot.
> Even an urban snob wouldn't mind it. I could see
> going
> back, something I never thought I'd say. Not to
> Virginia, though. I'm not planning on moving
> anywhere,
> but in the short list of places that I could see
> myself in theory, DC today is, to my surprise, on
> the
> list.
>
>
> --- Michael Smith <mjs at smithbowen.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 14:42 -0400, Doug Henwood
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Never a fan of Washington's more cosmopolitan
> > pleasures,
> >
> > Washington? Cosmopolitan? Huh?
> >
> > John F Kennedy's only truly funny line:
> Washington,
> > a city of Southern
> > efficiency and Northern charm.
> >
> >
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