Reporter: How do you answer the charge that you're a fascist? [Joy Division took their name from a historical novel about concentration camps]
Tony Wilson: Have you never heard of situationalism or postmodernism? Do you know nothing about the free play of signs and signifiers? [lots of fast British talking]
"He's a Cambridge educated gobshite who runs off at the mouth at the drop of a hat quoting as many philosophers and obscure French, Italian artists...and will give you a theory about absolutely anything, which you won't be able to understand." - Stephen Morris, New Order/Joy Division member
Excerpt from 'That Tony Wilson' Granada TV, 2002 on YouTube about Wilson's role in introducing public to Sex Pistols, post-punk, etc.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFndQ379ICw