[lbo-talk] "Yiddishkeit"???

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 20 15:06:24 PDT 2007


I dunno why the true observation that Slavic societies tended to be viciously antisemitic is some sort of racist or ethnic slur against Slavs any more than the true observation that white societies like ours tend to be viciously racist towards blacks and Hispanics is an ethnic slur about whites. Sure, it's not biological or based on "blood" or the mythical theoretical property of race, just on psycho-historical-sociological facts that have very complex explanations.

One may think, as I do, that many individual whites are antiracist, that racism among whites is a complex product of historical circumstances having to do with a history of (originally non-racially-based) involuntary servitude, that whiteness and racism were constructed both by oppressed whites and by their white oppressors to serve psychological interests and needs as well as to divide and conquer the oppressed, etc., and still say, truly and without any ethnic slur, that white society is racist.

Slavic society is antisemitic for lots of similar or analogous reasons, some of which you start to sketch in your previous post. And just as most American Blacks are at least as much white as they are "black," in the sense of descending from subSaharan African peoples, Ashkenazi Jews like me are pretty Slavic in that lots of ancestors were Russians, Cossacks, Belorussian, etc. So some of my best genes are Slavic, OK? But Slavic societies were and are antisemitic, and that's why I'm here. The old country, feh.

--- Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> --- andie nachgeborenen
> <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It would be ironic if Russians hated Jews in part
> > because they were "Poles," something which the
> Poles
> > would have passionately rejected. The old country,
> > feh. On the other hand my Hungarian grandmother
> had
> > a
> > real attachment to her old country, but the
> Magyars
> > weren't Slavs and had far less prejudice.
>
> BTW, it's not because they weren't Slavs, it's
> because
> they weren't a medieval Orthodox society.
>
> See, it's that kind of ethnic comment that annoys
> me. ;)
>
>
>
>
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