Look, I imagine you'd get pretty pissed off if someone said for example that usury was a Jewish trait.
Pogrom-style lynch-mob mentality peasant anti-Semitism was associated historically in the past couple of centuries (before that, it was pan-European) with Eastern European rural, quasi-medieval and exceptionally superstitious societies, which due to the historical accident known as the Mongol Empire overlap with Slavic, Baltic and Romanian territories.
--- andie nachgeborenen <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I dunno why the true observation that Slavic
> societies tended to be viciously antisemitic is some
> sort of racist or ethnic slur against Slavs any more
> than the true observation that white societies like
> ours tend to be viciously racist towards blacks and
> Hispanics is an ethnic slur about whites. Sure, it's
> not biological or based on "blood" or the mythical
> theoretical property of race, just on
> psycho-historical-sociological facts that have very
> complex explanations.
>
> One may think, as I do, that many individual whites
> are antiracist, that racism among whites is a
> complex
> product of historical circumstances having to do
> with
> a history of (originally non-racially-based)
> involuntary servitude, that whiteness and racism
> were
> constructed both by oppressed whites and by their
> white oppressors to serve psychological interests
> and
> needs as well as to divide and conquer the
> oppressed,
> etc., and still say, truly and without any ethnic
> slur, that white society is racist.
>
> Slavic society is antisemitic for lots of similar or
> analogous reasons, some of which you start to sketch
> in your previous post. And just as most American
> Blacks are at least as much white as they are
> "black,"
> in the sense of descending from subSaharan African
> peoples, Ashkenazi Jews like me are pretty Slavic in
> that lots of ancestors were Russians, Cossacks,
> Belorussian, etc. So some of my best genes are
> Slavic,
> OK? But Slavic societies were and are antisemitic,
> and
> that's why I'm here. The old country, feh.
>
> --- Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > --- andie nachgeborenen
> > <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It would be ironic if Russians hated Jews in
> part
> > > because they were "Poles," something which the
> > Poles
> > > would have passionately rejected. The old
> country,
> > > feh. On the other hand my Hungarian grandmother
> > had
> > > a
> > > real attachment to her old country, but the
> > Magyars
> > > weren't Slavs and had far less prejudice.
> >
> > BTW, it's not because they weren't Slavs, it's
> > because
> > they weren't a medieval Orthodox society.
> >
> > See, it's that kind of ethnic comment that annoys
> > me. ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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