[lbo-talk] Digression: Andie's Inadequacies (Was Re: Harry Potter, . . .)

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 26 09:54:42 PDT 2007


Hope you feel better, Carl.

FYI it's worth, the nonsense that I dispense to my students these days largely consists in trying to convey to them things like, the standard under which the court views the facts on a motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim is not the same as the standard under which the court views the facts on a motion for summary judgment. Or I try to get across the elements of RICO or mail fraud, or what you have to do to make out a sexual harassment claim. Someday I may get to teach a legal theory class and then I could poison their little minds with my pompous, complacent, turgid, cloudy apologetics from the present order, if I thought the classroom was the proper place to propagandize the pupils in the professor's philosophy, but that day is not at present on the horizon.

--- Carl Remick <carlremick at hotmail.com> wrote:


> >From: andie nachgeborenen
> <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>
> >
> >Carl, what makes you the arbiter of who is entitled
> to
> >be on the left? I don't like poverty (for anyone),
> I
> >want to be able to send my kids to college (and
> >everyone to do so), and I do like middle class
> >material comfort (for everyone), so I'm not ascetic
> >enough to be a leftist? I like to get some respect
> for
> >the work that I do, so I'm a bad guy right wing
> >scumbag? And I'm hearing this from a guy who made a
> >living as a career PR flack for the same bad-guy
> >corporations I used to defend? Are we back in
> fuck-you
> >territory, Carl? Yeah, I was a bad-guy corpo
> lawyer,
> >but you are hardly in a position to get ethically
> up
> >on a high horse. Anyway, I'm a college professor
> now,
> >or is that bad too?
>
> If you're dispensing the same nonsense to your
> students that you do to this
> list, I would have to say, yes, your influence is
> probably more malign now
> that you're back in the classroom than it was when
> you were a bad-guy corpo
> lawyer. I will say this for my experience as a PR
> flack, it cemented my
> awareness that the capitalist system is deeply,
> intrinsically evil and needs
> to be torn out root and branch. I state that
> message unequivocally and
> repeatedly on this list. Meanwhile, you seem to
> bounce merrily back and
> forth between academe and corporate lawyerdom,
> simply deepening your
> complacent conceit that the system just needs a
> little tweaking and all will
> be dandy.
>
> I can't decide whether you're more preposterous in
> your role as philosopher
> king or legal eagle. In either case, your writing
> style is terminally
> turgid and your thoughts mere cloud formations. I
> don't for a minute
> believe that you are a socialist of any kind but
> simply a pompous parvenu
> who delights in gloating about his wardrobe of
> expensive Italian
> leatherwear.
>
> But please don't let me drive you from this list. I
> treasure your presence
> here as an inexhaustible source of laughs.
>
> Carl
>
>
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