[lbo-talk] Run for the border

Bill Bartlett billbartlett at aapt.net.au
Sat Dec 8 15:34:51 PST 2007


I've never heard of such a thing as conditional citizenship. Conditional residency exists in law I believe, though I'm vague about the details. But to the best of my knowledge citizenship is non-revokable.

Are you sure the US does this? A Green Card isn't equal to citizenship, so revoking that isn't the same as revoking citizenship at all. While the US has some kind of conditional residency permits as well, but revokable citizenship is the kind of thing they do in totalitarian states. Not that I have a high opinion of the state of civil liberties in the US, but I didn't things were that bad yet.

I believe you might have to stay married for a certain length of time to qualify for Australian citizenship though. Mike would know I suppose. What is it Mike? I ought to know I suppose, one of my brother-in-laws got citizenship that way, after marrying my sister. He had earlier been sent back to Korea after running foul of the immigration nazis, next time they let him in they got married. But I didn't take too much notice of the details.

Bill Bartlett Bracknell Tas

At 4:57 PM -0600 8/12/07, John Thornton wrote:


>Bill Bartlett wrote:
>> At 2:17 PM -0500 8/12/07, JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Mike Ballard suggests:
>>>
>>>> But if you're over 45 (the skills needed qualification cuts off at that
>>>> age) and not rich, best to get married. There are a lot of
>>>>lovable Aussies.
>>>> Get on a plane.
>>>>
>>> Yes, well, women are faced with having to get married to get
>>>health insurance
>>> here, too. It's a time-honored method for keeping females in line.
>>>
> >
>> Keep in mind that divorce is easy in Australia, no need to *stay*
>> married once you have your citizenship. So it won't work to *keep*
>> anyone in line for long.
>
>
>Don't you have to stay married for a specific period of time?
>I believe in the U.S if you get divorced you can face deportation if the
>marriage "didn't last long enough".
>At least my friends from overseas who married Americans all believe this
>to be true.
>You have 'conditional' citizenship (green card) immediately after
>marrying and after 2 years of marriage the 'conditionality' is removed.
>You can apply for permanent citizenship after 3 years of marriage. If
>you divorce within those 3 years you can have your green card revoked.
>At least this is what was explained to me.
>I'm sure someone here knows the specifics about the U.S. system.
>
>John Thornton
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