[lbo-talk] private property and mortgages

bitch at pulpculture.org bitch at pulpculture.org
Thu Feb 1 08:26:50 PST 2007


At 10:39 AM 2/1/2007, Matt wrote:


>I understand why many on this list reject home ownership because of
>the notion of private property ownership, but a lot of working class
>people seem to want to be home owners.

there's nothing about communism that says you can't have a house or clothes or guns or cars or stereos. the private property commies object to is the private property of a capitalist: the means of production. see? private property in the form of personal things is a-ok dandy. there are some folks who argue otherwise. Time for a showing of hands! Who here on LBO envisions a commie society where we own nothing, where our cars and stereos and clothes are collective property we kind of rent or something?

i'm not opposed to home ownership. i'm opposed to the kid getting into debt. he has zippo interest in having roomates. he has zippo interest in having keggers, in fact. he's a pretty responsible kid who's major vice is that, like his grandfather, he's good at gambling. fucking won $1300 this weekend. i have access to his bank acct so i keep tabs on the losing, too. :)

like I said, if he does anything, it'd be get married or move in with the current gf. she's still in High school for another year and half, though. TG for that. He keeps saying, "Mama, this is the one. I could go out with this girl for a long time." (when he first met her, it was marry not "go out with." HA!)

And you've got to remember: when I was his age, cracker box houses went for $35k and stayed $35k for a decade or more. The house I lived in with the ex husband, who bought it in 1974 during his first marriage for $25k, was worth $35k in 1994. It's not clear to me that we'll never be back in that sitch, though Jordan assures me otherwise. They let the genie out of the bottle and the entire economy is hinged on it, it seems. Also, he could probably only find a very small three bedroom for $245K and he wouldn't find it near any universities. He'd find it 1.5-2 hr commuting time away.

For reference sake, in that same area, the ex bought a house in 1998 for $105k, 4 br, 3 bath, den, 2 cg, 3/4 acre, older. It'd probably go for $110k right now. This is nothing like the doubling and quadrupling that went on in this county. The house I'm sitting in sold for $70k in 1997. Today, it would sell for $250k for a 2 br 2 ba. In the old days, in order to have made any money on it, I would have had to recarpet, upgrade baths, install new lawn, etc. I could sell it today, more run down than it was in 1997 for triple without putting in one cent of sweat equity. in the old days, you only made $ with sweat equity.

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