At 02:09 PM 1/11/2007, you wrote:
>>No one can judge the degree of freedom in someone
>>else's private experience.
>>Carrol
>I don't know, shrinks do this all the time. Perhaps we don't want to use
>the word "judge," but certainly "understand" might be appropriate.
>
>1. You have a kid who can only get off by raping women. How free is your kid?
>
>2. You have a kid who can only get off by exposing himself to children.
>How free is your kid?
>
>3. You have a kid who can only get off by wearing liederhosen and being
>shat on. How free is your kid?
>
>4. You have a kid who can only get off by being whipped? How free is your kid?
>
>Lots of people go see shrinks precisely because their lives feel narrow
>and restricted , sometimes sexually so.
>
>Now, consider the next propositions:
>
>5. You have a kid who can only get off by having sex with a woman he loves
>and feels sexually attracted to (and who feels the same way about him.)
>
>6. You have a kid who can only get off by having sex with a woman whom he
>is sexually attracted to (and who feels the same way about him).
>
>Now everyone on this list, except for ravi, are arguing that #3 and # 4
>and #5 and #6 are the same. I don't agree. I'm also not sure where to put
>BDSM; probably because it's a huge gray area.
>
>As for the comments ridiculing "spontaneity" -- I am always amazed by the
>complete contempt people have for the body.
>
>Joanna
>
>
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