[lbo-talk] Left hand puritanism the lost re-bottle

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Fri Jan 12 20:17:57 PST 2007


James Heartfield wrote:


>Making the case for De Sade over the Puritans, Shane Mage cites the
>massacres at Drogheda...

Was that, or was it not, characteristic of Cromwellian Puritanism? And why was that monster Sade never even accused of killing anyone?


> ...the illegal execution of King Charles I as negatives...

And wasn't that illegality as characteristic of Puritan conceptions of justice as the withcraft trials? And why was that monster Sade repeatedly imprisoned without any form of trial?


> and De Sade's pamphlet against capital punishment (a noble against
>capital punishment in revolutionary France - you don't say!) as a
>positive.

Were there any others written? Not, I wager, by anyone whom anyone here has ever head of. Perhaps Philippe E'galite' (ci-devant d'Orleans) had such thoughts, but only after his stupid nephew and Dumouriez had put paid to his own scheme to become a Revolutionary Monarch once his vote to cut off his cousin's head had cleared the way.


>... On this side of the Atlantic...

You mean this side of the Irish Sea, this side of Hadrian's Wall, and this side of La Manche


>...we radicals still name our children Oliver...

What kind of "radicals" (or should that be Radicals) go through their Calendar of Radical Saints to find an odious name like Oliver when fine names like Gerard (Winstanley) and John (Lilburne) are free for the asking?

...and toast Cromwell for hacking Charles I's head off...

Thereby making Charles II the most beloved King in English History.

Shane Mage

"This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures."

Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 30



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