[lbo-talk] Left hand puritanism the lost re-bottle

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 13 04:24:56 PST 2007


Wasn't a body found on Sade's estate? My memory fails me.

--- Shane Mage <shmage at pipeline.com> wrote:


> James Heartfield wrote:
>
> >Making the case for De Sade over the Puritans,
> Shane Mage cites the
> >massacres at Drogheda...
>
> Was that, or was it not, characteristic of
> Cromwellian Puritanism? And
> why was that monster Sade never even accused of
> killing anyone?
>
> > ...the illegal execution of King Charles I as
> negatives...
>
> And wasn't that illegality as characteristic of
> Puritan conceptions
> of justice as the withcraft trials? And why was
> that monster Sade
> repeatedly imprisoned without any form of trial?
>
> > and De Sade's pamphlet against capital punishment
> (a noble against
> >capital punishment in revolutionary France - you
> don't say!) as a
> >positive.
>
> Were there any others written? Not, I wager, by
> anyone whom anyone
> here has ever head of. Perhaps Philippe E'galite'
> (ci-devant
> d'Orleans) had
> such thoughts, but only after his stupid nephew and
> Dumouriez had
> put paid to his own scheme to become a Revolutionary
> Monarch once
> his vote to cut off his cousin's head had cleared
> the way.
>
> >... On this side of the Atlantic...
>
> You mean this side of the Irish Sea, this side of
> Hadrian's Wall, and this
> side of La Manche
>
> >...we radicals still name our children Oliver...
>
> What kind of "radicals" (or should that be Radicals)
> go through their
> Calendar of Radical Saints to find an odious name
> like Oliver when fine
> names like Gerard (Winstanley) and John (Lilburne)
> are free for the asking?
>
> ...and toast Cromwell for hacking Charles I's head
> off...
>
> Thereby making Charles II the most beloved King in
> English History.
>
> Shane Mage
>
> "This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is
> and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in
> measures and going out
> in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 30
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