Joanna wrote:
You are using the word "natural" in an odd sense. Siamese twins are
> natural in the sense that it is an event that occurs in nature.
> Nevertless, there may be a reason to separate the babies: that they will
> grow up in a world that is not organized around siamese twins and, for
> that reason, they will be able to have a more "normal" life if they are
> separate. Not all natural things are desirable; nor is this a black and
> white area. For example, hermaphrodites may decide that they do not want
> to choose one sex over the other.
>
>>
>> In the natural habitat, when sexual deprivation is not enfoced upon
>> animals, are there same sex cohabitions?
>
> Every piece of research I'm aware of has discovered that about 8%-12% of
> animal populations prefer same sex relationships under any circumstances
> -- in other words, some of it is hard wired.
>
> Then, of course, there are also things like prisons, where same-sex
> relationships are enforced by circumstance.
>
> And then, there are cultural/social circumstances where same-sex
> relationships are preferred because women are so devalued that it is not
> possible to have any kind of reciprocity with them and therefore sex
> isn't as pleasurable as it could be. (Pleasure shared is pleasure
> doubled....) Societies like Afghanistan where, as I mentioned before
> "Women are for babies and men are for pleasure."
>
> So, yes, homosexuality may increase as a result of historically
> distorted relations between the sexes.
>
>>
>> Fashion is another nonsense that is connected with the affair. The
>> fashion has driven the youths here so silly that they no more know
>> where to tie their trousers. They all publicly display now their naked
>> back, nearly up to their anuses.
>> Is that as well to be passed as natural--freedom of choice.
>
> Fashion is often about power. If the west is perceived to be powerful,
> then one gains power/status by behaving in a "western" fashion. If that
> includes homosexuality, then one might ape that "fashion." If freedom
> matters, then you should not bewail the absence of heroes and idols; the
> absence of good role models however is a loss which is unavoidable in a
> "me-first" society in which men are set at each other's throates.
>
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