[lbo-talk] Liberalism (Was Re: Nietzsche)

Miles Jackson cqmv at pdx.edu
Wed Jul 4 18:02:52 PDT 2007


Robert Wrubel wrote:
>
> I agree that any little socialist cooperative functioning today is
> partly or mainly a fantasy, since in many ways it still depends on a
> surrounding capitalist infrastructure. But, you have to start
> somewhere. I dont believe in imposing government from the top. You
> just wind up with another form of entrenched power.
>

The basic characteristics of socialist economic relations are (a) shared ownership of the means of production and (b) production planned for common benefit rather than personal profit. We have plenty of examples of these types of economic relations in industrialized societies:

public libraries public parks public highways fire departments police departments open source software credit unions employee owned businesses food co-ops basic scientific research in public universities volunteer/charity organizations

The problem is not that these forms of socialist economic production are "mainly a fantasy"; the problem is that many people take these forms of effective socialist production for granted while they babble endlessly about how "socialism doesn't work". Socialism works just fine.

Miles



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