Biil Bartlett:
> Wage labour, more or less, it seems to me.
Tayssir responded: Depends on how you define it, like "democracy" can mean anything nowadays.
If "wage labor" implies relationships where workers are subordinate to a boss, or sell themselves on labor markets, then I doubt it applies to Parecon. ***********
And more, Tayssir. As Marx analysed it, wage labour is where the working class sell their time and skills to the employing class for a price (wage). *What the employer gets for this price is the ownership of the product of the worker's labour.* The employer then markets that product (good or service) i.e. the product becomes a commodity. By selling goods and services the workers produce, the capitalist makes a profit. Thus, the separation/the alienation between the product and producer begins with wage labour. The power to control/own the social product of labour is at the core of the political power which the ruling classes have had *over* the producing classes since the dawn of history. Marx tried to clear the air on this question vis a vis the capitalist system of production in a speech he made to a group of assembled workers back in 1865. That speech, now commonly known as "Value, Price and Profit", can be found here:
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1865/value-price-profit/
Of course, an expansion of the principles found in this speech can be read in more detail in all the volumes of CAPITAL and other works by Marx and Engels.
Mike B)
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