[lbo-talk] Liberal Intellectuals and the Coordinator Class

bitch at pulpculture.org bitch at pulpculture.org
Thu Jul 12 17:13:43 PDT 2007


At 05:58 PM 7/12/2007, you wrote:
>If we are talking about a socialist society, enormous 'things' would
>have happened between now and then, and the people living in that
>society would be people constituted by the social relations through
>which those things were brought about. It simply makes no sense to argue
>about what the motives of people under those conditions would be. They
>wouldn't be either better or worse people, they would simply be
>different. Parents in the 18th c. would beat the hell out of their kids
>and no one, kids or parents, thought much about it. One can go on
>indefinitely listing such examples.
>
>Carrol

i agree with you, but the point of dealing with feminist and other issues NOW is that it's not going to magically happen over night, either. It'll take awhile, perhaps a long time, and it's in that window where the possibility that a new sexist, racist, etc. regime might possibly flourish and threaten such a transition. Hence, the argument that part of getting there means dealing with those issues, now. I think one of the most compelling discussions of this is Marx's writings on the Paris Commune where he talks about the old practices and social institutions that helped pave the way for the commune.

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