[lbo-talk] Liberal Intellectuals and the Coordinator Class

[John Thornton]

BklynMagus wrote:
>> When my work allows others the freedom to not work it maximizes my own freedom. [JT]
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> How so? [Brian]
>   
How could it be otherwise? If anyone has the freedom to stop working at 
any time they wish and suffer absolutely no financial penalty for doing 
so this maximizes their freedom, from an economic standpoint. Since the 
work required to fill everyone's needs is not enough work to employ 
everyone capable of working why should everyone be forced to work?
>   
>> I actually have more freedom under such a system than I would under any other system?
>>     
> Why? [Brian]
>   
Perhaps I should say under any other system I know about. If you want to 
put forth a system that would maximize everyones freedom to a greater 
degree I'd love to hear about it otherwise see the above reason.
>   
>> Anything less is a less just societal arrangement.
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>
> But isn't such a situation also "just societal arrangement"?  
> Once a person becomes involved with another/others don't 
> societal arrangements occur?
>
> Brian
Huh? I do not understand your question and reading it makes me think you 
misunderstand my statement above. I'm not writing about what does or 
doesn't constitute a societal arrangement.
There are many possible societal arrangements that offer many different 
levels of justice. Any system that offers less freedom, real freedom, 
not market based nonsensical freedom to starve is less just than equal 
income for all where economic freedom is concerned. Such a system could 
still have draconian laws that curtail other freedoms but I am speaking 
of economic freedom. Perfectly just distribution of income does not 
guarantee maximum social freedom but it is necessary to maximize all 
forms of freedom.

John Thornton