robert wood
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> The film may not use the word "socialism" directly with health care but
> it mentions socialized services repeatedly.
> Could Moore have added more information about the history of socialism
> as a driving force in countries with socialized medicine? Sure, but the
> film is long already and has lots of information. How would that have
> improved it? If your goal is to attempt to remove some of the stigma the
> word socialism has in the US then including this fact might make sense,
> but if your goal is to get Universal Health Care in the U.S. now then
> consciously linking that effort with the word socialism may do more harm
> than good in the US. Many Americans might oppose "the health care system
> of socialist countries" as a knee-jerk reaction to that word when they
> actually favor universal coverage. Exactly how would that help implement
> Universal Health Care in the U.S. right now?
>
> Herod is just wrong when he says the word Capitalism "was not mouthed
> once by anyone in the film" however the film isn't an anti-Capital film,
> it is a Universal Health Care film.
> If Herod wants an anti-Capital film he should make one himself rather
> than complain about the fact that Moore didn't make one. (And never
> claimed he was making one)
> Herod's critique is very weak. He seems to want to dislike Moore's work
> regardless of it's merits and is attempting to find some reason that
> will allow him to do just that. What the fuck is it about Moore that
> makes people dislike him in such irrational ways? Why the need on some
> people's part to dislike someone who is doing something positive and
> concrete about a real issue like health care? Why not just be glad
> someone is doing this work in a high enough profile manner to get
> noticed and possibly get results instead of lamenting that he isn't
> doing enough or isn't doing it the way someone else wants it done? For
> fucks sake if you want a Pro-Socialist film about health care make the
> fucking thing yourself.
>
> I for one am glad Moore has brought the idea of Universal Health Care to
> the forefront. I've been told by list members here on more than one
> occasion that this issue is dead and won't happen in the next several
> years. Maybe, but it looks possible right now. I heard Trent Lott
> mention in an interview recently that we may have a U.S. Government run
> health care system five years from now. He wasn't happy about that but
> he seems to consider it a real possibility so why the hell shouldn't I
> or anyone on this list?
>
> John Thornton
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