[lbo-talk] the depressing thing that is American politics...

Robert Wrubel bobwrubel at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 24 22:04:58 PDT 2007


Miles wrote:

"I think you have that the other way round: Bush's approval rating right now is about 28%, and the majority of the population wants to get us the fuck out of Iraq! No need to assume the minority of the U.S. population with their heads up their asses are the "mainstream". (Unless you're a Washington journalist --- Miles Jackson <cqmv at pdx.edu>

I dont know about that. Why, if the polls are right, are we getting no action from Congress? You'd think congresspeople would be getting word of it from their constituents by now.

I do an anti-war vigil every Friday afternoon in Northern California's most democratic county (Lynn Woolsey's district.) I've counted the number of cars that give us a thumbs-up (honk or show the peace sign) many times, and it's never above one in three on average. One in ten (about) give us the finger, and the rest -- they glide by in their BMWs, eyes-averted, on their cell-phones. I take it they just dont give a shit.

BobW


> ravi wrote:
> > On 24 Jul, 2007, at 19:01 PM, B. wrote:
> >> There are just so many fucking good reasons that
> >> certain things needs to happen, universal health
> care
> >> one of them, an end in Iraq another -- yet, no
> matter
> >> the brilliance of the salvos fired, they don't.
> Even
> >> when perfectly sound and reasonable reasons are
> >> elaborated -- it's just, thanks, but no thanks.
> And
> >> I'm not even blaming leaders for being obstinate,
> >> though they're obviously bastards. There is a
> HUGE
> >> amount of the US public that is so entrenched in
> a
> >> facts-be-damned mindset that I have no idea how
> to
> >> even comprehend it, or approach it.
> >>
> >> And I don't buy any more that the facts just need
> to
> >> get out to people, then everything will take care
> of
> >> itself. <...>
> >
> > Here's my half-arsed take on it: the population is
> divided into a
> > fairly large group that chooses various
> [biologically and culturally]
> > received criteria over facts ("we trust a
> bumbling, mistaken Bush
> > over anti-American liberals"), a smaller group of
>
> > "liberals"/"progressives" who are frustrated by
> the fact that facts
> > do not matter, and a tiny bunch of wankers (that
> would be us -- and
> > no that's not a word from the "blogosphere") who
> would be irrelevant
> > even if we didn't spend our time beating on each
> other (no pun
> > intended).
> >
> > --ravi
>
> I think you have that the other way round: Bush's
> approval rating
> right now is about 28%, and the majority of the
> population wants to
> get us the fuck out of Iraq! No need to assume the
> minority of the
> U.S. population with their heads up their asses are
> the "mainstream".
> (Unless you're a Washington journalist--)
>
> Miles
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