[lbo-talk] Raúl on the 26th + Fidel on Cuba's Self Criticism

John Thornton jthorn65 at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jul 30 17:38:47 PDT 2007



>> Hey, could you repost those legitimate arguments in this thread because
>> I've read and re-read your posts and can't find them. (JT)
>>
>
> Probably because you are wedded to the leftist dogma about Castro and
> the "successful" Cuban revolution.
>
> Ah yes, I've run into this style of dismissing arguments on Wikipedia.
> This line of intellectual dismissal revolves around saying that the
> opponent has made no points, so the accuser can safely dismiss them.
>
> I've run into this pathetic line of intellectual "argument" many times
> over the years when dealing with people who excuse authoritarian groups
> and regimes.
>
> You forgot to accuse me of being an agent of American imperialism. (Chuck)
>

No, I didn't forget to do anything. I have no reason to imagine you are an agent of American Imperialism any more than any other American is. The problem of American Imperialism is systemic, not individualistic.

Let me get this most recent line of reasoning correct:

You think I'm "wedded to the leftist dogma about Castro" and so my request for examples of your legitimate arguments concerning Cuba is not really such a request? Therefore you are going to simply dismiss my legitimate request as a dismissal of your arguments, label it pathetic and them dismiss it yourself? Your doing the very thing you accuse me of. Do you not see something surreal about this position? I hope you do but fear you are so totally blinded by your dogmatic adherence to opposing any state actions and your knee-jerk reactions against such actions irrespective of the real improvements they may make in the lives of actually living persons that you be unaware of the rather surreal position you are taking.

If you're worried about overposting; forgive me for not automatically assuming this is a personal objection for a person posting 4 times the ostensibly agreed upon by all list members, you can send me a reply directly.

John Thornton



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