On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 21:39:12 -0700 (PDT) andie nachgeborenen
<andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > Carrol Cox wrote:
> >
> > "I want torture to stop -- but it's incidental to me
> > whether someone is made morally responsible for its
> > occurrence."
>
> No, you don't. This is the sort of silly claptrap that
> liberals and leftists feel obliged to pronounce
> because they think that retribution (channeled
> revenge) is ugly. It is ugly, but it is justice and
> virtually everyone, including you, really accepts its
> moral, psychological, and social necessity. It's time
> to stop lying to ourselves. You want see the torturers
> jailed or executed, the same as all decent people do.
> You would not think it was OK if the torturers were
> just to walk away from their tools, leaving the
> prisoners unchained and the doors of their cells open.
> That would be good, but it would not be right. What is
> right is that the prisoners go free and the torturers
> are punished proportionately.
>
>
>
See any or all of the pieces that my friend Tom Clark has written on his Naturalism.Org website concerning retributivism. http://www.naturalism.org/criminal.htm