[lbo-talk] Torture Re: Nietzsche: Free will

Jordan Hayes jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com
Sun Jun 10 13:35:17 PDT 2007


I thought I'd seen it all on this here intertubes, but this one takes the cake:

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Carrol writes:


> "I want torture to stop -- but it's incidental to me
> whether someone is made morally responsible for
> its occurrence."

Andie writes:


> No, you don't.

Carrol writes:


> Well, what can I say. You know more about what I
> really think/feel than I do.

Andie writes:


> Actually I think I do know better than you what you
> think about this, and if you were honest with yourself
> you'd admit it too. just like all of us on this list.

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I think the word I'm thinking of here is 'delusional' ...

But it's worth going back to what he thinks he's right about:


> It's time to stop lying to ourselves. You want see the
> torturers jailed or executed, the same as all decent people
> do.

I guess I now know who not to ask about how to characterize "decent people" ... I'm with Carrol on this one, and I wish I could laugh at Andie's pronouncements -- if they didn't just scare me.

/jordan



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